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92 Y.O. WWII VET IN WHEELCHAIR UNLAWFULLY DENIED VOTE FOR EXPIRED ID

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& other election day irregularities in JOHNSON COUNTY INDIANA

From: Gary "Reform" Moody for Johnson County Surveyor
            http://votereformindiana.com
            http://www.facebook.com/GaryReformMoody

November 6, 2012

I campaigned for a few hours today at one of the "vote centers" in Johnson County, IN: the Franklin Parks Recreation Center on Branigan Blvd. In the early to mid afternoon I saw an elderly gentleman in a wheelchair wearing a Navy hat, accompanied by two ladies who were somewhat elderly themselves, heading towards the door. I made it a point to speak to these folks about my candidacy, and about the gentleman's veteran status. He told me that he is 92 years old, spent 20 years in the Navy, and if I remember correctly, was on seven ships during WWII, one of which was sunk by the enemy with him aboard. He said that he'd been a sonar technician. His loved ones were obviously very proud of him. I asked if he'd brought his ID to vote, and he said that he had his passport and state photo ID. I didn't get their names, unfortunately.

After speaking with them I lost track of them due to some odd events, which I'll get back to below. An hour or so later I saw them again in the parking lot. The ladies were helping the gentleman out of their van and into his wheel chair. I called out a lame joke about their coming back to vote a second time. Then I noticed that the ladies were furious. They told me that this 92-year-old World War II veteran in a wheelchair had beenrefused his right to vote because he'd forgotten his state ID and his passport had an expired date on it. I was aghast! I told them that it was wrong to turn that man away in the first place, and that they should have offered him a provisional ballot anyway. They had clearly not been told about using a provisional ballot. When they left the ladies were still furious, having received no apology from the poll workers. I mentioned what had happened to Michael Delp, who is the Animal Warden for Johnson County, and happened to be there campaigning for another candidate (county employees have election day off). He was also shocked and spoke with the gentleman and the two ladies while they were there.

I went inside and complained about this to the polling place inspector, Ray Scott. I informed him that it was wrong to treat that elderly veteran that way, and that he should have been offered a provisional ballot. Scott told me that they "can only issue a provisional ballot with the Clerk's permission." I asked him if he had a way to contact the Clerk, and he admitted that he did, although he was very evasive, and repeatedly told me to "file a complaint with the election board." When I tried to clarify exactly why he had not bothered to call the Clerk, Ray Scott told me that the voter "has to request a provisional ballot." Meaning that he thought that he was not permitted to so much as inform a voter about the alternative of using a provisional ballot in such a situation. I was appalled yet again. I reminded Scott that this voter was 92 years old, in a wheelchair, and could die tomorrow for all we know, therefore how could he refuse that person the right to vote over an expired ID, and not bother to offer the fellow a provisional ballot? I told him that he should "have some humanity." Scott replied "I think we do."

I left the location to run an errand, and upon my return, because I was still bothered by the attempt to disenfranchise that elderly veteran, I went into the polling place again to write down names. I spoke with the polling place judge, Noblee Conrad. She claimed not to have been involved in the incident with the elderly veteran. Furthermore, either she or Scott, I don't recall which exactly, then told me that it was a poll clerk who actually had told the gentleman he couldn't vote. Not wanting to interfere with the long lines and such at the time, I didn't speak to the other staff, but went back outside instead.

That's not all that happened at this location today. A group of people (including Mr. Delp) were supporting Republican candidates outside of the Recreation Center. Among their group was a young lady, who, it turned out, was 18 years old. She went in to vote, then came out in tears. She had been told that her name was not on the voter list, although she had registered to vote, and she too had been turned away. After she left I told her friends that she should have been able to vote with a provisional ballot. They phoned her and she returned, but apparently some poll worker claimed that her registration had been voided because she was 17 at the time she filed it.

(Finally, my own problem at the polls: Some 20-something jerk insulted me as he was walking into the polling place - I never found out why he did that - so I replied in kind. The kid complained to Ray Scott, the inspector, who then called the police. Scott didn't tell the kid to call the police, he didn't tell the kid to stick around - I spoke to him again as he departed - but simply called the police. Who walked up to me as I was finishing my first conversation with the elderly veteran. One of them went inside, and after a while I followed him in to find out what was going on, plus I needed to use the restroom. I told the building staff what I was doing, put down my placard and hat in a public seating area well outside of the polling place, when all of a sudden wild discussion of "electioneering" broke out, and the officer, having finally appeared, threatened to arrest me for a "felony." I protested that I wasn't "electioneering", just going to the toilet, and when everyone called down, I was told that Ray Scott said that the kid told him that I "was outside yelling at him because he wouldn't vote for you.")

These problems happen for two reasons:
1. This is Franklin, Johnson County, Indiana, and we're lacking in various critical areas such as reason, common sense, justice, democracy, etc.;
2. Poll workers here, at least at this one location, are not properly trained. But given my experiences at the county courthouse, and with various officials, I'm guessing that this is a common situation around Johnson County. And primarily due to Indiana's bogus voter ID law (thanks toTodd Rokita, you jerk), there are probably similar problems rampant statewide. We all remember Todd's disenfranchised elderly nuns in 2008.

SEE: http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/ "Top Ten Election Day Mistakes by Poll Workers"

6.  Photo ID: Incorrectly administering the expiration date requirement for photo ID—the ID does NOT have to be current
Solution: Administer the Photo ID Activity in your training sessions. 

9.  Provisional Ballots: Not offering provisional ballots—turning people away. 
Solution: Provide your poll workers with a provisional ballot guide and always make sure they use the Election Day Handbook.

SEE ALSO: "Indiana Voter’s Bill of Rights"

You have the right to vote in an Indiana election, if:

You will be at least 18 years of age at the next Municipal or General Election, November 6, 2012 [RE the girl who was turned away]

You have the right to vote in a free and fair election:

You must present a government-issued photo ID [which]...
Include[s] an expiration date that shows the document:
(A) is not expired; or (B) expired after November 2, 2010

If: 1. You are unable or decline to present the photo ID 
-OR-
2.  A member of the precinct election board determines that the photo ID presented does not qualify as proof of identification, a member of the precinct election board will challenge you. [NOT TURN YOU AWAY]
After executing a challenged voter's affidavit, you may:
1.  Sign the poll list; AND
2.  Receive a provisional ballot [NOT MAKE YOU "ASK" FOR ONE!]

SEE ALSO: http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/2651.htm Provisional Ballots

Who may Challenge a Voter?

1.    A member of the precinct election board (the inspector or either judge).
2.    A poll clerk (but only if the clerk does so based on a questionable signature by the voter on the poll list). 
[3,4     political watchers etc.]

These events, plus the removal of the list of candidates from the County Voter Registration Office web page by Board of Commissioners President John Price (an act of electoral sabotage you're free to ask me about), will be included in a formal complaint to the Johnson County Election Board.

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June 07/11/2012 13:32:55
Sad story, but it is no secret what is required in order to be allowed to vote in Indiana. Serious voters should have their affairs in order.
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Brick Layer 07/11/2012 15:19:26
Same thing happeed to me during last mayorial election in Columbus. No photo ID. I protested till they gave me a provisional ballot. I didn't fufill its guidelines however. Myself being in a wheelchair I'm not going to run all over hells acres to obtain birth certificates and other proof I'm an American qualified to vote. I'm also not running to the DMV every time the photo ID needs to be renewed. I don't drive and probably neverf will the rest of my life. As far as I'm concerned this is nothing more than another way for the stata of Indiana to garner more income through the fear of homeland security and potential voter fraud.

I'm also on Medicaid due to enormous medical costs. I waited for 3 1/2 years to get on medicaid and in the process of doing that it is unbelievable of what documentation you need to provide. Much more than required for a photo ID at the DMV. If photo IDs are really that neccessary then why don't they have the means to do this at the Medicaid office too at no cost? Whoever wrote this photo ID law had no regards of convenience for people with disabilities who will never drive, or the IDs would be done at the medicaid office when aproved.

Now I vote by absentee ballot at home and don't need no stinking photo ID.
Reply Great Comment I'm sorry, but this is wrong!
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anorther Vet~ 08/11/2012 04:49:35
Not sure what to make of this but if this man performed at least 20 years of qualifying service computed under Section 12732, then he would have qualifyed for retirement pay at age 60 “Notification of Eligibility for Retired Pay at Age 60” and should have at some point been issued a DD Form 2 a retired status Uniformed Services ID Card (if you are a military retiree or military family member, you must have a Uniformed Services ID Card to access military service benefits or privileges) and there is no expiration date on a retired military ID.
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Concerned with honesty... 08/11/2012 17:51:42
The facts of this story don't add up. This is a made up story! ***** from admin... This is Concerned's opinion. We don't know that this story is made up. We have no reason to believe it is made up.
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Paula Jarrett 09/11/2012 05:24:00
BL..take responsibility to get a photo ID. It's not difficult to do. My mother never drove, and eventually she had to get a photo ID...and she did.
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Brick Layer 09/11/2012 15:29:34
What type of responsibilty are you referring to? I have no need for one and never will. So I'm at a loss as to how that could be irresponsible.

This isn't Nazi Germany when all citizens were required to carry such documentation at all times or face interrogation upon failure to present one because of state paranoia of that time. This in fact is how I perceive this photo ID law. Just another case of "Big Brother" taking liberties with my resources in the name of security. For hundreds of years voting proceeded just fine without photo IDs.

I voted this election by absentee ballot not needing a photo ID. No other right and action I exercise has required me to do so.
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Concerned American 09/11/2012 14:32:43
Why should he have to get one? Are you saying that hes not a responsable persone just because he dosent have an ID?
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Brick Layer 09/11/2012 15:42:05
"You can tell how corrupt a society is by the amount of laws on its people."
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Concerned American 09/11/2012 21:15:33
Yea and they make up new laws at will......honestly how do they expect a person to keep up with them all? My guess would be that they dont....and call me crazy but half of us wouldnt even know we had broken any laws untill we found ourself answering for it.
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